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DHS Preparing for Civil War? Economic Collapse? Both?


Published on Jan 2, 2013 by StormCloudsGathering

Why has the Department of Homeland Security recently ordered a total of 1.2 billion bullets, the majority of which are hollow points and buckshot? What are they preparing for? Civil war? Economic Collapse? A combination of the two? These kinds of bullets are not used for target practice.
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Sources:

450 million rounds purchased by DHS earlier this year:
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Security-Industry/2012/03/13/ATK-producing-a…

Purchase order for additional 750 million rounds of ammunition
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d024b4476b2648e5…

Backup link to download the purchase order from my site:
http://nindra.net/sites/default/files/uploads/HSFLGL-12-B-00003_Step_1_Techni…

Obama promises gun control action early next year
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/19/us-usa-guns-obama-idUSBRE8BI0ID2012…

Top economist say U.S. economy is in a death spiral that may end civilization as we know it:
http://moneymorning.com/ob/economist-richard-duncan-civilization-may-not-surv…

DHS to use drones over U.S. territory:
http://rt.com/usa/news/dhs-us-public-safety-019/

NDAA 2013 passes with indefinite detention still intact
http://rt.com/usa/news/ndaa-indefinite-detention-trial-403/

QE3 has already Failed:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/louiswoodhill/2012/09/19/will-ben-bernankes-qe3-w…
QE4:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesdorn/2012/12/27/ben-bernankes-qe4-another-st…
Toxic assets still on the books:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704570104576124701144189910.html
The size of the derivatives bubble:
http://www.siliconvalleywatcher.com/mt/archives/2008/10/the_size_of_der.php

Operation Fast and Furious:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_162-57559809-10391739/fast-and-furious-gun-…
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/100112-627744-univision-reveals-fast…
www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/19/fast-and-furious-report_n_1897688.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-57461204-10391695/a-primer-on-the-fast-…
Obama used executive privilege to protect Eric Holder:
http://news.yahoo.com/fast-furious-watergate-only-body-count-181100013.html

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14 Responses to DHS Preparing for Civil War? Economic Collapse? Both?

  1. Phoenix Redhawk says:

    Homeland Security is a paper tiger with its tail stuck up its ass. These unconstitutional thugs are nothing more then a boogieman’s wizard of oz illusion. When push comes to shove we’ll see that they’re sailing on the “Good Ship Lollypop” steaming full speed ahead straight for the jagged rocks of justice.

    • NC says:

      I agree with you on that. The sooner people do away with this ridiculous fear of TSA, which has ZERO police training or even mall security training, the sooner we can plow through and march forward to take our country back and fight the real enemy. People need to stop seeing TSA as a god of security and start seeing them as nothing more than a movie usher at a movie theater. That’s how I always see them and that’s how everyone should see them. They have NO POWER NOR ANY CONSTITUTIONAL OR LEGAL AUTHORITY TO BE IN POWER!!! They are only there to put fear into the sheeple and it is the sheeple, who continue to play along to get-along, who give them this false and absurd power.

      WAKE UP, PEOPLE!! The TSA HAS NO POWER!!! They are nothing more than pedophiles and ex-convicts with toy badges!

      • chris says:

        I hope they send the TSA out with guns and chances are they will receive no training or the very minimum training possible (point and click).

        The blue shirts will run around like chickens with their heads cut off during an ambush or if they are getting picked off by marksmen.

        Those bright blue shirts also make them easier to hit.

        Not to mention there will be almost no public sympathy for these useless parasites as they are picked off, and the TSA will aid us in by driving more and more people to our side.

  2. Incriminally Sane says:

    1.6 billion rounds of ammo can only be used for one thing……KILLING AMERICANS!
    Whether they plan on instigating a civil war and/or confiscating your guns to be used against you with the foreign troops, we don’t know, all we do know is they are breaking the laws of the land and have proved on several occasions that they don’t mind killing the people of this country. They have used the constitution to gain power over us and we must use the laws that remain to regain our legal standing and restore our rightful place amongst all the communists that now run this nation. Kick out the usurpers and we win!

  3. James Woroble Jr says:

    DUH! OF COURSE THEY ARE! And have been for over a decade. You really think all this anti-terrorism bullshit implemented domestically in the previous ten years has been due to a foreign threat??? They were succinctly aware of where things were going economically and what the social and civil consequences would be. What did you expect them to say… “The shit is going to hit the fan for us elites, probably about 2007-8, and we want YOU serfs to permit the dissolution of YOUR rights and the allocation of 100′s of billions of dollars to set up a police state to repress and kill YOU so WE will be protected, along with our power and wealth.”

  4. Patrick Conway says:

    The good things are obvious here. There are definitely more of us than them (stay with me here), many of us were not only trained a hundred times better than they and were put to the test in Viet Nam and a few other actions in between, they have the automatic selector on their weapons making their weapons the assault weapons everyone is talking about (stay with me, the good part is coming), and, because they are not well trained, they will waste millions of round firing wildly in auto mode. In Viet Nam we called that “rock-n-roll” but it was usually only good for the ‘mad minute’ on the FSBs. Many people are going to back down because these monkeys look scary and have mean looking machines. I think we are at the point where we need to start figuring a way to get to know our buddies and find out where like minded patriots are.

  5. John Q. Parvenu says:

    Q. — “Is DHS Preparing for Civil War?”

    A. — You’d best believe they are! That is why DHS was created in the first place and, if we had access to their most highly classified documents, that is one of two salient facts that would stand revealed; the other being that the DHS is, for all intents and purposes, a wholly owned subsidiary of the National Security Agency. If the reader thinks I’m being excessively paranoid, he or she should examine the curriculum vitae of its grandees, many of whom have longstanding affiliations with the NSA..

    The existence of the DHS allows the NSA — easily the most dangerous intelligence organization in human history — to pretend that it isn’t engaged in the blanket surveillance of America’s dissidents, when in fact the NSA has done exactly that since its inception. It further provides the NSA (and thus the Pentagon) the conduits — financial, as well as, material — to ferociously militarize state and municipal police departments.

    (To visualize the extent and the velocity with which Americans’ freedoms have been vitiated, we need look no further than the cinematic portrayal of policeman over the last, 25 years. Have a gander at the vehicles, clothing, and the armaments available to big city police forces in, say, 1988; then have another look-see circa fin-de-siecle 2000; and, finally, ponder the metastatic militarization that infests even small town police departments in AD 2013.)

    And as much I would prefer to agree with Phoenix Redhawk’s assessment that “Homeland Security is a paper tiger…” the available facts do not align themselves with this assessment. These people are stone-cold thugs!

    Cheers,

    JQP

    P.S. — FTTWR is one ballsy website — keep up the good work!

  6. Anon Patriot says:

    The MSM headlines are obviously either FEAR promotion, and/or “predictive programming”. What we know now, is that ALL of their memes are FRAUDULENT. “War on Drugs” – a FRAUD. “War on Terror” – a FRAUD. “AGW”, “global warming” – a FRAUD. “Fiscal Cliff” – a FRAUD. It’s one gigantic ponzi-scheme of an economy, and those in control of the printing presses own the media. They are the ones collapsing the ‘global’ economy, on purpose, so that they can institute some new ‘global’ currency, and ‘global’ government. They are taking as much as they can, before the collapse, then trying to control the narrative, so that, they can survive the collapse, and come out the other side, smelling like roses – with no prosecutions, and still in control.

    Bankers Destroy Global Economy by Design to Consolidate Power
    http://www.truthistreason.net/bankers-destroy-global-economy-by-design-to-consolidate-power/comment-page-1#comment-26822

    • Anon Patriot says:

      Look, folks, the Central Banker orchestrated economic collapse now unfolding, and the ‘austerity’ that is to come, are the PRIMARY reason, why the Obama Administration is ramping up its push for “gun control”. They KNOW they need to disarm the public, if they are to be successful, at 1) Completely collapsing the U.S. Economy, with no criminal prosecutions, 2) Imposing “austerity” measures (more fraudulent debt) on the backs of the American public, 3) Surviving the coming collapse themselves, with assets intact, and 4) Coming out the other side of the collapse, smelling like a rose, with assets intact, no criminal prosecutions, and STILL IN CONTROL!

      A MUST READ!

      An Open Letter to Members of Congress…

      IS GUN CONTROL A ‘RIGHT’ OF THE GOVERNMENT?
      http://dailyoddsandends.wordpress.com/2012/12/31/is-gun-control-a-right-of-the-government/

  7. European American says:

    There are “other” concerns out there (when it comes to who is on whose side, i.e. who are the “good” guys and who are the “bad” guys?), that we should also be concerned about, as Gordon Duff explains…

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/01/02/281357/israel-lobby-americans-and-guns/

    • Patrick Conway says:

      I am not always sure which way Gordon Duff is oriented, i.e, mis/disinformation or patriot, but that article is so dead on he moved up a notch with me.

  8. European American says:

    What’s interesting in all of this talk about gun grabbing, and civil war, and the massive amount of ammo DHS and other government agencies have “purchased”, is the question, who is selling the government Arms and Ammo? What American companies are selling these arms and ammo to corrupt organizations that are clearly turning against civilians?

    What got me thinking along these lines was a year ago I ordered, from a local gun shop, a rifle, the HK MR762. It was suppose to come out back about then. The gun eventually did come out but only a few, and from the list I was on, short as it was, only the top 3 or so got one. I asked one of the gun shop employees why the delay in getting more? He said, and another gun shop owner told me the same thing, that HK’s priorities were to the military and police, FIRST. “Now why is that?” I thought to myself. HK is a German company but makes a portion of guns here in America. Surely these corporations know what political, economical, social turmoil building up across the nation, and, across the globe. Could they only be in it for the money? Naively as this sounds, seems to me, civilians should come first. And, if they don’t, would one really want to buy guns and ammo from companies that intentionally supply agencies that plan on turning on civilians?

    I know, it’s a crazy world and ‘make hay while the sun shines’ seems par for the course from both sides, but when I think of those ammo companies selling hollow points, in the amounts they are selling, other than the fact that they’re making a considerable sum of money, still, what happened to moral integrity? I think the bankers own it all, now.

    I also wonder where the information was “leaked” from regarding the various agencies purchasing massive quantities of hollow point? From the seller or the buyer? Why?

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