That didn’t take long: following the worst Russian airplane disaster in history, the question everyone was asking is who is responsible. Moments ago we may have gotten the answer.
A militant group affiliated to Islamic State in Egypt claimed responsibility for the downing of a Russian passenger plane that crashed in Egypt’s Sinai peninsula on Saturday, the group said in a statement circulated by supporters on Twitter.
Below is the full statement from a group alleging to speak on behalf of Islamic State, posted on their affiliate site, translated by the Guardian’s Jahd Khalil. It offers no evidence that the group brought down the plane, apart from their word.
Breaking: Downing of Russian airplane, killing of more than 220 Russian crusaders on board.
Soldiers of the Caliphate were able to bring down a Russian plane above Sinai Province with at least 220 Russian crusaders aboard.
They were all killed, praise be to God. O Russians, you and your allies take note that you are not safe in Muslims lands or their skies.
The killing of dozens daily in Syria with bombs from your planes will bring woe to you. Just as you are killing others, you too will be killed, God willing.
The tweet in question:
#Egypt #ISIS Claim Responsibility for shot down the Russian Aircraft over Sinai #IS #ISIL pic.twitter.com/tBCRt7Xen1
— Abu Ibrahim Raqqawi (@raqqa_mcr) October 31, 2015
Many expressed their initial skepticism that ISIS is the responsible party:
UPDATE: Responding to IS claim, Russian Transport Ministry says it "can't be considered true;" plane at 31k feet, outside MANPAD range, @BBC
— Stratfor (@Stratfor) October 31, 2015
#ISIS claim re. #Russia airliner — 3 possibilities:
1. False claim
2. Bomb on plane
3. ISIS [somehow] has advanced air defense missiles.— Charles Lister (@Charles_Lister) October 31, 2015
An analyst with the Center for American Progress, Mokhtar Awad, told the Guardian that the Islamic State’s claim of responsibility “is quite vague.
“It doesn’t state how they were able to ‘down’ the plane allegedly. Even the most sophisticated of portable surface-to-air missiles cannot reach that high an altitude and are only a threat during periods of take-off or landing, but the plane had already climbed to its target altitude (from what we know thus far) when it began to likely experience technical failures.The local affiliate, Wilayat Sinai, has been under some pressure over the past few months and may have jumped the gun on taking credit. Although there isn’t a precedent for such a spectacular lie about something they claim to have done, Islamic State itself has recently been embellishing more and more. For instance it claimed that the recent prison raid by Kurdish and US special forces were a total failure, when in fact video evidence surfaced showed them freeing the hostages. So this may be an instance of the rooster taking credit for the dawn.”
Then again, it could simply have been a bomb planted on the plane and set to explade after 20 minutes of flight time.
Even Russia’s transport minister Maksim Sokolov has said that the claim Islamic State militants brought down the plane “can’t be considered accurate”.
Now in various media there is assorted information that the Russian [plane]… was supposedly shot down by an anti-aircraft missile, fired by terrorists. This information can’t be considered accurate.
However, to corroborate their claim, ISIS has allegedly released this shocking video showing what appears to be a mid-air bomb explosion.
Viewer discretion advised.
#عاجل
تنظيم #الدولة_الإسلامية ينشر مقطع فيديو يقول إنه ﻹسقاط #الطائرة_الروسية في #سيناء pic.twitter.com/wxE4KRanht— غريب (@2011iqbgd2017) October 31, 2015
Although according to latest social media updates, even IS Sinai is stating that this video is fake.
IS Sinai says purported vid of Russian plane being down is a fake
— Samer Al-Atrush (@SameralAtrush) October 31, 2015
As a reminder, this is where the alleged explosion occurred:
Whether or not the video is real or staged like many of ISIS’ previous “made in Hollywood” productions, is currently unknown.
Of course, is the same ISIS which a recently leaked CIA report revealed as being created by the CIA as a “tool” to overthrow Syria’s Assad.
In other words, a proxy organization of US “shadow government destabilizing operations”, trained in U.S. ally Turkey, and openly funded by both U.S. allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar, just took down a Russian plane.
The question now is did ISIS use a US-made surface-to-air missile to start what may be a very unpleasant war.
Also, does Russia get a carte blanche to begin attacks on ISIS in Egypt now, the same Egypt which recently “purchased” the two Mistral ships made by France, which were meant to be bought by Russia in a deal that was scrapped in the last minute due to NATO intervention?
One thing is clear: if the Russian population had any qualms about continuing the campaign in Syria, they were just eliminated in perpetuity.
We now await the Russian response, against both ISIS and its direct and indirect sponsors.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-31/islamic-state-claims-responsibility-russian-airplane-crash
Now who else do we know (that the plane was headed straight for) that is pissed because Russia is interfering with ISIS???
Hint ; also known for preemptive strikes and other false flags?
CIA/Mossad strike again
That’s what I got from the story too.
If the plane was shot down, which it was not, the crew would have been able to send out a signal.
“They were all killed, praise be to God. O Russians, you and your allies take note that you are not safe in Muslims lands or their skies.” ~ Ministry of Propaganda, the White House.
How curiously odd how the Israelis, for all their meddling, interfering, theft, stolen lands, stolen oil, genocide, murder, sabotage, and assassinations, AND FOR ALL THE ‘VOWS’ TO ”WIPE THEM FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH”……
NEVER suffer any losses……
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ee4_1446300521
http://aviation-safety.net/photos/di…0&vnr=1&kind=G
Looks like this page(http://aviation-safety.net/photos/di) has been removed. Didn’t get a chance to see it.
http://aviation-safety.net/photos/graphics/20151031-0-G-1.jpg
“The question now is did ISIS use a US-made surface-to-air missile to start what may be a very unpleasant war.”
I doubt Mossad/CIA would trust them with such a complicated piece of weaponry.
Probably did it themselves.
Why don’t they just show some black and white footage of a P51 mustang with a Russian symbol.
FOR THE STUPID PEOPLE!
Hell, put snoopy in the cockpit too!
With his stupid bird friend…..woodstock.
The Propaganda has turned into the Enquirer at the checkout stand just unbelievable.
Kind of like…. Paul Ryan elected speaker of the house.
Goes on rampage… kills boner… finds and hangs Lynch.. then goes after commie of the FBI….
Files charges against a Dick/Cheney and proceeds to nail a Bush…and then stick it up a Colon/Powell.
Fkn… killing me!
The video is fake.
Zero ejecta. Nothing blows outward and nothing falls towards the ground after the explosion. Have a look at the far off challenger explosion and note the ejecta https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBK-4hfbfQM
The black smoke is a particle generator and the age particle growth is too uniform as is its generation.
However, just who made the video and had it ready to go online moments after the crash means fore-knowledge or fast (albeit poor) multimedia production skills.
-flek
or it means that the whole thing is fake.
Look at the photos of the plane – why are some of the parts rusty? Where’s the charring? Doesn’t foam burn? Where’s the impact zone? How about the luggage and seats from 224 passengers and crew? There are only about 3 russian ladies with their fake tears on video…something stinks about this whole thing.
More photos at nodisinfo.com:
http://nodisinfo.com/airbus-plane-wreckage-proves-russian-sinai-crash-is-a-hoax/
That’s true, it could be a total hoax.
I’ll wait for the cause to be announced, because it’d be kinda strange to hoax a crash and the cause is mechanical/structural failure.
Also, it was reported that the egyptian govt called an emergency cabinet meeting…for a plane crash? Why?
If it was isis/daesh, their website wasn’t glorifying it anywhere.
You’d think that’d be front page news on their site. Which, by the way, is hidden behind cloudflare and has flashy professional page layout and links for facebook, twitter, etc. HHmmm.
Nor would I put it past the russians to hoax it to enrage their people for further, deeper intervention in the middle-east. There are
many possibilities.
It’s the beginning of a world war and deception is the name of the game on all sides.
-flek
Flek:
i suspect you’re right – i don’t trust the russians either. all the puppets are best buds, sticking to the script for wwIII. we’ll probably never know the real cause, if the entities who want wwIII are in charge of the investigation.
Dot
You shot down a plane from a country that is attacking you, good plan, way to go. This will really work in your favor.
I read that this plane was hit in the rear in the past.
The rear bulkhead door may not have been repaired properly and let go.
Electrical lines could have been broken so the plane could not be controlled.
Apparently the same thing happened in the past to another plane.
For now, I will go with that explanation until other evidence comes to light.
I will not dismiss tampering with what is going on in the Mid East.
I am fast changing my mind about cause.