For the Oathkeepers, it is time to stand up. Whether they like being told what to do, or not, that is what needs to happen and pretty fast. We are at a point where we need to know who the good cops are, who the good people are.
The scenario is this: I just got busted for some nonsense illegal possession of a firearm charge, now maybe they just made my firearm illegal, or maybe they just made me illegal, i.e. I’ve been to the doctor for depression (don’t worry not in real life) and now I cannot own a gun. So I am there, in the Oathkeepers squad car.
I ask are you OK? (meaning Oathkeepers of course).
You, as the law enforcement officer, ex-military say, after a pause to see if what I am asking is what you are about to answer, you say yes.
Now, we have a problem. Why in the hell am I in your squad car to begin with? You have violated your oath already, the first one to defend the Constitution, so help you God and the other when you swore to all of us you would stand up for us when the time came.
If you are OK, you should have let me alone, so I don’t have to escape and rack up further charges.
Look, I know how the legal system works inside and out. By the time you have me in your car it is too late to make up an “escapee” situation, because that will only hurt me when some other zealous cop busts me for speeding and runs my name for warrants. Not good enough, folks.
Here’s the other thing. If you are a cop and you arrest me for some nonsense gun charge and let me tell you that I consider no gun law valid, or lawful under the Constitution. It has been recently ruled in the Supreme Court that “militia” means individuals, it does not mean organizations. When the Second Amendment mentions “people” it means exactly that, not organizations, not militias, not governments, not military units, “people” meant men of proper age able and willing to defend the nation.
You know what? The nation still needs defending from bad cops and bad politicians and we, the people, will do it. The game has started.
Threats of legislation to confiscate weapons is the same as confiscating weapons, because if we wait until numerous individual American citizens have been made an example of, it is too late to claim your oath has been kept. Sorry, you don’t get to decide when or how your oath should be applicable to the situation, that is the decision of a free people and we are watching you to see if you want to do the work or if we are going to have to do it all.
A threat to confiscate a weapon through legislation is the act of confiscation, here’s why: because it already demonstrates to the people at large, the hunters, the sportsmen, the preppers and self-defense proponents that the government neither respects nor recognizes the Second Amendment. They are telegraphing their willingness to disregard the Constitution. If anyone should be arrested over gun laws, it should be the politicians which have violated their oaths and have become domestic enemies themselves.
Make no mistake, if I am looking at being arrested for owning a weapon that the government has now deemed inappropriate for my use, I will use it against the Oathbreaker who comes to get it. If you will enforce such a law, you are nothing but a thug coming to collect protection money and should be treated as a criminal and a traitor and likely will be.
It’s a fine line that needs to be walked here, friends. We don’t know who you are. The Oathkeepers say they won’t arrest someone for possessing a weapon recently banned, fine, if that’s the limitation of your understanding of the Constitution, but my bigger point is that no Oathkeeper should respond to an illegal weapons call.
Here’s another thing to consider: a gun in the hands of a felon is not a threat to you unless it has been used to commit a crime. The Second Amendment does not provide for keeping guns out of the hands of felons, or the mentally disturbed, though both are excellent ideas. But, here is where the rubber meets the road: a felon might be rehabilitated and lead a normal life and require the defense of his home and family as much as anyone else and if that person is prevented from using a weapon to defend himself, he is a lamb led to the slaughter. Likewise, a mentally disturbed person still has the right to legally defend himself and fight back against an oppressive government as much as a sane person. I know you don’t like it, but restrictions against gun ownership are not addressed in the Second Amendment and therefore unconstitutional.
But, here is the kicker: gang-bangers are generally under 21, they are in possession of illegal weapons at that stage, are they not? Assuming that the weapons being used are pistols. Are you busting down doors in the “hood” to see who owns an illegal weapon? Are you stopping underage gang-marked young men on the streets to see if they are packing? Not much you aren’t or there wouldn’t be the gun violence in inner cities and among gang members that there is. Which is the point: anyone willing to break drug and protection laws don’t give a damn about your gun laws and neither does any other felon willing to break the law. No schizophrenic, or psychotic gives a damn about your gun laws. And, by making guns scary and only available to the “right” people, you have allowed for a society who fears guns, who think they come with some political agenda and they allow themselves to make your job harder.
The result, people, is that more people are disarmed, cowed by gun laws and left unprotected and moreso, because they are unprotected by obeying the law, they become victims and are unable to stop the rapist, murderer, thief or gang banger before they do more damage to society as a whole. Gun laws degenerate society.
Oathkeepers, the people you are arresting could be doing your work for you, if you obey the Constitution in the way it was meant to be enforced. What about enforcing that law? Kind of drank the Kool-Aid on that one, didn’t you?
We need officers to recognize the situation and realize that it is time to stand up, to make your voice known and to stop responding to the dictation of government which is clearly and in so many ways violating the very law that you are sworn to uphold and defend.
Now, there are good cops and bad cops. The good ones need to identify themselves through actions and unmask the bad cops who have taken an oath to which they have not intended to abide. It was only a means to getting a job and some bad cops are much worse than the criminals they engage.
Things are getting real. Are you?
http://tlinexile.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-good-cops-need-to-declare.html
Things are getting real. Are you?
Well, we have to wait and see how determined they are. They have had time to scan the web, listen in to phone conversations all over the nation, have had contact or read the reports of their field agents listening in on conversations in bars, and other public places.
They know the statistics and know the chances that the propaganda campaign for the proles aimed at putting them asleep for their own safety worked or not.
2 more days for the traitors, to advance from using their freedom of speech to actual subverting the Constitution by trying to take its last guarantee for defence by the population away.
The 3rd of Jan will be the day.
What’s going down on the 3rd? Is that when they vote on the Feinstein law?
Is Thursday January 3rd 2013 – THE NEXT D-DAY
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Read more at Ammoland.com: http://www.ammoland.com/2012/12/31/is-thursday-january-3rd-2013-the-next-d-day/#ixzz2GlWPecA9
Fight with us or meet the same fate as those who are having you do the dirty work.
Just found an excellent reply and an eye opening article all by itself:
http://www.ammoland.com/2012/12/28/molon-labe-come-and-get-them/#comment-76061
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Johnny Geetar on December 30, 2012 at 12:22 AM said:
I agree with the author’s insights but not his final conclusions. There WILL NOT be 100 Ruby Ridges or 100 Wacos; What WILL transpire? America will resemble 1970′s Beirut when the conflict gets into full swing. Allow me to paint a picture;
Law enforcement officers will quit in droves. Those that will do the federal government’s bidding will be taking a boatload of sniper fire every single day while patrolling the streets in cruisers, and police stations will become deathtraps. Driving a police cruiser will become a death wish. Remember the Viet Cong? They would assault quickly, then melt back into the local populace and vanish like ghosts. I guess there was a bit to be learned from Giap and friends that will certainly be applicable if these idiots move forward toward confiscation, and we are 20 TIMES the size of Vietnam……. That’s an awful big shooting gallery.
Communities will band together to protect against those that group together to loot and pillage,rape and murder, and they will be given NO quarter, and be shot on the spot with no police intervention, as they SHOULD be. They will become the new fertilizer for the local populace……. Many of the unprepared will die from lack of food and water. This is where not heeding the preparation warnings WILl kiil you and those in your charge. Those that own NO firearms will be the most vulnerable.
Retaliation against non-compliant gun owners will be harsh. As soon as the FAMILIES of said gun owners begin to be harmed, the families of law enforcement, cooperating local military personnel and federal grade folks that come door kicking will be targeted in return. It will become a town by town and city by city bloodbath. Remember the door kickers of Hurricane Katrina? Think how BAD that would have turned out for the door kickers had everyone in Louisiana been anticipating their arrival, and were proactively pointing THOUSANDS of guns at EVERY SQUAD on EVERY street? THAT’S what a pissed off America will look like if these morons proceed……..
Those of the federal stripe that would surround a Waco, will be not only taking fire from the front, but they will be taking fire fron the flanks and rear as well. Ever hear of surrounding the surrounders? WE have the numbers; THEY don’t. They cannot possibly be everywhere at once, and occupy large swaths of geography. They simply WILL NOT HAVE the numbers. The MOMENT they become static, they become vulnerable.
How many hunters with bolt action rifles do we have in this country? 1 million? Five million? 10 million? EVERY movement by government forces will be plagued by these hunters with rifles designed to bring down deer and heavy game. Virtually every roadway and highway they travel, they will be ambushed and shot at. And remember; a hunter’s bullet is considerably MORE capable of penetration and damage than a bullet fired from an AR-15 or an AK-47. To those that know, a few .308 or 7.62x54r bullets will demolish a truck engine or truck tires, especially the heavy ball ammo. This is the LARGEST sniper army in the world, and most of em are pretty damn good shots. MANY are deadly shots WAY past 500 or 600 yards.
Folks will organize and unite. A people’s army WILL grow quickly. America IS NOT Thermapolaye; there are over 100 MILLION gun owners with over 350 MILLION firearms at their disposal and tens of BILLIONS of rounds on hand, so I do not share the author’s fatalism. Quite the opposite, in fact. From where I’M sitting, this is federal suicide. At MOST, what can local, state and federal governments muster to their cause nationwide; 1 million soldiers under arms? 2 million? And further, MOST in the military would back the citizenry. Not all, but most. The very weapons the government will bring to bear will be turned against THEM! These citizens are their mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, neighbors and friends. When push comes to shove, they will stand with family, community and Constitution FIRST. Think the National Guard of every state will do the fed’s bidding? I think not. And if the federal government was STUPID enough to illicit the assistance of UN troops and try to order the US military to stand down, the military will go NUTS! THAT one requires little elaboration…
Let’s be clear; they risk a revolution that has EVERY chance of toppling them from power. If they do this, it is for ALL the marbles, and there is NO turning back. If they lose, they LOSE EVERYTHING.
Government forces will be shot at from windows in virtually EVERY city street, firebombed and sabotaged at every turn, and be ground down slowly. The 2.2 billion rounds of hollow point ammo they’ve ordered doesn’t matter if there is no one to FIRE it. They will be left to conscripting federal office workers and building janitors to fill the ranks.
Folks will fight like cornered tigers when family and community are threatened. Will the same zeal be brought to bear against US by socialists defending a mere ideology? I think not….. Ideology alone WILL NOT sustain your soul through a protracted mess like this. When push comes to shove, those that would do the federal government’s bidding will walk away in droves, JUST LIKE the New Orleans Police Department, to be with and protect their OWN families.
Remember 1 other important thing; the US dollar is in dire straits right now. The government is BROKE! They can print money ALL THEY WANT after a collapse, and it will STILL be worthless. A revolution of the magnitude we speak of here WILL collapse the final integrity of the dollar. NO country with a cumulative IQ over 43 would TOUCH a US dollar if we decended into a revolution. What does the US government plan on PAYING their people with once that happens?
Forgive me for writing a book here, but i’m sick of hearing how outgunned and outmanned we are as citizens when EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE! I’m tired of hearing people tell us that it is a losing battle to take on the government. BULLSHIT! What is missing is RESOLVE! Folks simply need to wrap their heads around a new reality and make their peace with the fact that they may be called upon to execute some very unpleasant things to bring America back to a Constitutional Republic. It’s time to look upon your wives, children and loved ones, and recognize the true peril this government has put them in. It’s time to get mad people. It’s time to steel your resolve. It’s time to DECIDE.
Molon Labe, indeed. Only NO Thermapolaye; If you come for our guns with force, you WILL die, and your rule over America WILL die WITH you.
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That’s more of what we need right there. Excellent find.
I do not hold any hope in an Oathkeepers promise. Hope is like a rope of sand.
I see 90% of all local police and deputies working for their masters and grabbing our weapons. They are more afraid of losing their paycheck than standing up for what is right.
How about when their paycheck, and the paychecks of their families, are worthless? Will the compliant mercenaries be given special script? There are many possibilities. When the SHTF, we must be careful not to support the enemy, and reject any script they come up with.
Johnny Geetar is absolutely correct! We need more vigilant patriots like him. I am honored to know that citizens like him walk this Earth. F#@k the NWO and its crony LibGOP pigs.