Buckeye, AZ -(AmmoLand.com)- Are you a terrorist? A potential terrorist? A suspected terrorist? A suspected potential terrorist? Or potentially a suspected terrorist?
As Jeff Foxworthy might say: If you believe in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, or the rule of law … you might be a terrorist.
Prohibiting people listed on the government’s secret terrorist watchlist and its secret subsidiary, the federal no-fly list, from buying guns is again on the table.
President Obama expressed the argument simply the other night when he said, “If you’re too dangerous to board a plane, you’re too dangerous, by definition, to buy a gun.” That seems reasonable, but of course, like most government programs, seeming reasonable and being reasonable are two vastly different things.
More importantly, that is not what the legislation now pending in Congress does.
Politicians, the media and anti-rights organizations are fond of terms like “terror gap” and “terrorist loophole.” Then they float between talking about the “no-fly list” and the “terrorist watchlist.” In fact, their legislation does not use either of those lists, but instead gives the attorney general (or her designate) the authority to create yet another list, based on the same vague criteria of the terrorist watchlist, but with her discretion as to whom to include and whom to leave off.
The terrorist watchlist is estimated to have over a million names on it, but no one really knows, because it’s a secret and the number is said to fluctuate. People on the terrorist watchlist can fly, as long as they’re not on the no-fly list, but they face greater scrutiny at the airport. People on the no-fly list, which is reported to be between 50,000 and 100,000 names, are not supposed to be allowed to even fly over the United States, for instance from Canada to Mexico. It is unknown exactly how and why people’s names are added to these lists, because there is no formal adjudication process, and whatever process does exist is, well, a secret.
We do know that there have been numerous cases of “false positives,” people, including small children and babies, being delayed or denied flights based on erroneous identification as being on one of the lists, and numerous cases of people actually being added to the lists based on bad information or for invalid or even illegal reasons. In one case, over 50 peaceful anti-war and anti-death penalty activists in Maryland were added to the lists as suspected terrorists by the state police. On the other hand, a federal inspector general’s audit of the Transportation Security Administration turned up 73 people whose names were on the terrorist watchlist but who were allowed by TSA to work in airports around the country. We don’t know if those suspected terrorists are still employed in airports or how (or even whether) they were fired without revealing the secret that their names are on the watchlist. That information is apparently still a secret.
There is also the inconvenient fact that most, if not all, of the terrorists who have carried out attacks in the U.S. in recent years were not included on the terrorist watchlist.
Now the president, the Democratic presidential candidates and the majority of Democrats in the House and Senate want to use the vague and malleable language of the George W. Bush executive order that underlies the terrorist watchlist to give the attorney general authority to create a list of Americans she thinks are “too dangerous to buy a gun.”
But wait, there’s more. The Democrats’ legislation doesn’t just give the AG authority to block gun sales to anyone she suspects might be engaged in or supportive of terrorism. Under this legislation, she would be able to completely repeal those individuals’ Second Amendment rights – with no due process, no court, no judge, no jury and no mechanism for appeal. She would only be able to authorize confiscation of the person’s firearms, though, if she informed them that she was doing so because she thinks they are connected to terrorists or terrorism.
They want to suspend constitutional rights on the basis of suspicion alone.
Recall the controversy a few years ago when the Department of Homeland Security sent out alerts to local law enforcement agencies warning them that veterans, libertarians, anti-abortion activists, Ron Paul supporters, gun rights advocates, tea party people and basically anyone who didn’t drive a Prius with an Obama sticker on the back was a potential terrorist and worthy of enhanced caution and increased scrutiny. And we’re supposed to trust these people to decide who can and can’t buy or own a gun? These are the same people who used the IRS as a political weapon and who have suggested that all NRA members should be added to the terrorist watchlist. Why would anyone even consider giving them a blank check on our rights?
“No person shall […] be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.”
The secret process of compiling the terrorist watchlist is not due process.
Liberty can only be taken away for just cause. That includes the right to purchase and possess firearms. The laws and the courts have laid out the acceptable causes and process for denying that right. Your name on a secret list that is compiled by government agents without any sort of due process or means of redress does not qualify as a due process for prohibiting a constitutionally guaranteed right.
Supporters of this outrage want to couch this debate in terms of “letting terrorists buy guns,” but the real issue is whether to allow bureaucrats to arbitrarily deny the constitutional rights of Americans without due process. Under our Constitution, the only possible answer is an emphatic NO!
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you might be a Terrorist if you usurped the position of president of the United States , and my constitutional rights
“President Obama expressed the argument simply the other night when he said, “If you’re too dangerous to board a plane, you’re too dangerous, by definition, to buy a gun.” ”
Let’s start with OUR laws, what is a *Terrorist?
*28 C.F.R. Section 0.85 Terrorism is defined as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”.
Important here is these words, “to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”
Our government is a constitutional republic, the document we call the Constitution of the United States of America; not the people that serve within the state or general (usuallly and erroneously called the “federal”).
So when those that serve within our governments are working to “change” it in unlawful manners, and they have/use the “force” of government – and it matters not that they pull and use a weapon, just the threat of that “power” is enough – unlawfully behind their actions THEY are the *Terrorists here in America.
That is why here in America it is against our laws to “just follow orders” and/or to “just do your job” when working in a governmental position. It is why all governmental employees – elected, hired, contracted, etc – are REQUIRED to take and KEEP the Oath to support and defend the US Constitution. This was upheld at the Nuremberg Trials in Germany (Nazi) when those armed there tried to use the “just following orders” and/or to “just doing my job” as a defense. They that were found guilty hung for those crimes BECAUSE they would not have happened if they had REFUSED to “just follow orders” and/or to “just do the job”.
That Oath makes the person who took it personally responsible for their actions while in office. That is how many who served in the US armed forces were held accountable for actions they were ordered to do; they wwre REQUIRED to not follow that order under any circumstances if it was unlawful.
So when TSA agents stop and frisk any American at airpoirts, bus stations, trains, games, etc it is an act of Terrorism against the American people.
When the “secret court” and Obama, etc decides who to murder this week using the non existent “assassination powers” it is not just First Degree Murder, it is an act of Terrorism on the part of ALL involved against the American people.
When Obama and his minions usurps and blends the authorities DELEGATED to the other branches it is an act of Terrorism and Treason.
Etc.
Defending our LEGITIMATE government and restoring it by removing those that serve within it – state and general – is NOT “terrorism”, but the act of DEFENDING of our nation, our legitimate government, our people, and the American way of life from the Traitors and Terrorists, the Domestic enemies who serve within our government, and it IS Required of the American people to do so by our legitimate government.
It is an important distinction that those that SERVE WITHIN OUR GOVERNMENTS are NOT “the” government. They are put there – elected, hired, contracted, etc – to do duties that are delegated to the branches and to specific positions and that IS in writing. The authority does NOT belong to the person serving, they are ALLOWED to use it as long as they KEEP the Oath of Office.
“They want to suspend constitutional rights on the basis of suspicion alone.”
This INFRINGEMENT upstages even the one related to ‘mental illness’.
Stay ready.
Why not? I mean they murder US citizens overseas and their families without due process of law, guaranteed by the US Constitution based on being “accused” of a crime by drone. In fact, some families here in the US have already been murdered by drone and reported as a “natural gas explosion caused by a natural gas leak”. Think about that.
Our only hope to save this once great country from the tyrants that have now taken it over is Trump. It’s okay if you disagreed, but who else is their running for POTUS that speaks what all US citizens are thinking? If a US citizen speaks up they are assaulted by the IRS and put on the “no fly list” and their guns taken.
If Trump is not just another lying son of a bitch who’ll tell us what we want to hear and then do the complete opposite once elected, just exactly how is he going to save this country? And just exactly how is this saved country going to look?
You don’t have a f#@king clue, you’re just another one of these people looking for the knight on the white horse to come and do it for you. Trump is no knight on any white horse, he is a multi billionaire con man, and you are just another gullible sheep.
Go sell your shit somewhere else, we are not buying here.