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Shock! $307 Billion paid to Africa while America goes over cliff

Africa 6The Big Bad Bank – by George Washington Hunt

Obama Budgets $307 Billion For the African Internet, etc.
The “Alliance For An Affordable Internet” is a public-private partnership which intends to build a huge, expensive African Internet. Its headquarters are in Nairobi, Kenya, now dubbed “Africa’s Silicon Valley”.

Hillary Clinton alluded to this monstrous State Department project when she stepped down from her Secretary job on February 1, 2013. She said, “One billion more persons will have access to the Internet”. She did not expand her sentence to include… “and Americans will pay for most of it”.

Africa 5Here is the scheme: Bloomberg News reported on Feb 14, 2011 that President Obama’s budget for FYE2012 will include $307 billion in grants to Silicon Valley. Specifically, the individual grant amounts in Obama’s budget are: $148 billion for research and development, $80 billion for federal information systems and $77.4 billion for computer education. Much (most?) of the grant money will be spent for Africa’s Internet.

The partners of “Alliance For An Affordable Internet” include the U.S Department of State, the World Wide Web Foundation and five Silicon Valley computer giants (Google, Microsoft, Yahoo!, Intel and Cisco Systems).

Americans will get little benefit from these huge grants, nor can we endure the $307 billion in the cash Africa 1outflow from the U.S. treasury. While we struggle to pay for health and indigent assistance, our constant wars and our corroding infrastructure, these grants will indeed bury us further into debt.

The World Bank, the UN and many foundations are available to fund an African Internet. If the international funds refuse to assist, the E.U. and the U.K. should fund this project because of their large African associations.

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33 Responses to Shock! $307 Billion paid to Africa while America goes over cliff

  1. Steve Apple says:

    How many “american military officers” can we expect from this well thought out anti american enterprise,is it like the G M bailout(theft from taxpayers to gamblers on j-wstreet) where they built billion $ factories in china or the patriotic “amnesty” for the millions of mescan invaders,this fkn african is spitting in the faces of americans.These foreign alligance scum have broke us enslaved us and will now try to starve us into submission,which was started 100 or more yrs ago and is excellerating like a runaway train on a down hill slope.
    Steve

  2. Mark Schumacher - NV says:

    This is all part of the drone BS. It’s probably a lot more than just internet. That is just a cover story. They need drone tracking facilities and their hiding the work with this gobble de gook

  3. Alberet says:

    While Americans STARVE.

  4. Strayhorse says:

    AMERICA – MILLIONS OF JOBS ARE AVAILABLE NOW; MILLIONS OF MORTGAGES SAVED NOW; MILLIONS OF STUDENT LOAN DEBTS CLEARED NOW; THOUSANDS OF VETERANS THANKED NOW-INCLUDING HOMELESS VETERANS!

    THE ECONOMIC FREEDOM AND STABILITY ACT (EFSA)

    Please find below a simplistic compilation of suggestions for fixing America’s economy. Instead of giving any further bail-outs of billions of dollars to the banks, financial houses, or corporations that will squander the money on obscene and unearned bonuses without giving any thought to using those funds for the betterment of the poor and middle class, the following plans are presented instead:

    PLAN A: 

    There are 40-50 million baby boomers who remain employed in the work force. We suggest that the United States government offer each of those employed baby boomers $1 million dollars each, tax free, as severance to retire from their employment within 90 days of receipt of the $1 million dollar severance with the following stipulations:

    I.          The new EFSA retiree MUST cease their current employment and not hire on as an employee anywhere in America ever again. 40-50 million job openings will occur – Younger potential employees and college graduates are then hired.  Unemployment costs saved and employment opportunities will immediately be resolved. (The new retirees CAN start a business, and they can eventually hire new employees too).

    II.         The new EFSA retiree MUST buy a new AMERICAN made energy saving, green rated automobile. With 40-50 million new American made vehicles ordered the auto industry will once again become stable and solvent with jobs and needed resources enjoying economic growth- Employment, Environment and Auto Industry fixed.

    III.        The new EFSA retiree MUST either buy an American house/condo or pay off their existing mortgage thereby increasing jobs, and stabilizing the housing and mortgage issues – Employment and Housing Crisis fixed.

    IV.       The new EFSA retiree MUST purchase a life insurance policy to insure that those who depend on them for support will be taken care of in the event of untimely death or medical setback. –Dependents and Caregiver Coverage Fixed.

    V.        The new EFSA retiree MUST purchase and carry yearly medical, dental and vision coverage for themselves and their dependents, decreasing healthcare costs and burdens for the nation, and ensure continued wellbeing and quality of life.  – Financial, Employment and Healthcare Coverage Fixed.

    VI.       The new EFSA retiree MUST forfeit all future Social Security, Medicare, and/or Medicaid benefits decreasing trillions of dollars of social welfare costs; eliminating the financial burdens on the coming generations, and encouraging self-determination.  Budget Deficit fixed.

    *** Certainly even some of the noted suggestions warrant further consideration, or the opportunity to be further elaborated on and implemented.  Such an economic and stability program could be in effect by the end of June 2013 without much financial investment considering the billions of taxpayer dollars being wasted each minute as you read this proposal.

    AMERICAN VETERAN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF SACRAFICE ACT (AOS)

    PLAN B:

    THE AMERICAN VETERAN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF SACRIFICE ACT– AOS

    1.      10-20 ACRES OF AMERICAN LAND AND AN AMERICAN MADE TRUCK (NEW OR USED) WILL BE PROVIDED ALL HONORABLY DISCHARGED VETERANS.

    2.      VETERANS MUST GROW SOMETHING FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY ON THE LAND (FOOD, LIVESTOCK,
    WILD GAME, PRODUCTS, ETC)

    3.      VETERANS CANNOT SELL, CONVEY, USE AS COLLATERAL OR TRANSFER OWNERSHIP OF THE LAND
    FOR 10 YEARS.  THE TRUCK CAN BE SOLD OR OWNERSHIP CONVEYED AFTER FIVE YEARS.

    4.      THE LAND CAN BE INHERITED BY DEPENDENTS OF THE VETERAN BUT CANNOT BE SOLD, CONVEYED, USED AS COLLATERAL OR TRANSFERRED OUT OF THE FAMILY FOR 10 YEARS.

    5.      VETERANS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR STEWARDSHIP OF THE LAND TO INCLUDE ALL WASTE CREATED ON THE LAND.

    6.      THE LAND CANNOT BE A BLIGHT ON THE COMMUNITY, OR THE LAND CAN BE RECOVERED BY THE GOVERNMENT AS FORFEITURE FOR FAILURE TO MAINTAIN THE LAND AS IT WAS INTENDED TO BE USED.

    With the implementation of the SEVERANCE AND VETERAN ACTS, America’s students will see a brighter future to invest their efforts and talents while creating plentiful jobs without fear of increasing the unemployment ranks.
     
    STUDENTS TO PROFESSIONALS ACT – (STP)

    PLAN C:

    THIS PROGRAM WAS CREATED TO CONNECT HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE STUDENTS TO EMPLOYERS WHO WILL ACT AS BENEFACTORS, MENTORS AND INVESTORS IN THE STUDENTS’ FUTURE PROFESSIONAL AMBITIONS BY FUNDING A STUDENT’S EDUCATION OR SKILL TRAINING ON A 1:1 RATIO:

    ONE YEAR OF EMPLOYMENT WITH THE SPONSORING COMPANY FOR ONE YEAR OF COLLEGE OR SKILL TRAINING.

    1.      A SPONSORED STUDENT WILL WORK SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS OF EACH SUMMER ATER THEIR SOPHOMORE YEAR IN HIGH SCHOOL UNTIL THEY GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL, AS AN INTERN WITH THE EMPLOYER-SPONSOR WHO HAS CONTRACTED TO INVEST IN THE STUDENT’S COLLEGE OR TRADE SCHOOL TUITION.

    2.      ONCE THE STUDENT GRADUATES FROM THE COLLEGE OR TRADE SCHOOL OF THEIR CHOICE, THE STUDENT WILL WORK ONE YEAR FOR THE EMPLOYER-SPONSOR FOR EVERY YEAR THE EMPLOYER-SPONSOR FUNDED THAT STUDENT’S EDUCATION OR TRAINING.

    3.      SAID EMPLOYMENT WILL BE AT A COMPETITIVE RATE OF PAY, WAGE, SALARY AS DETERMINED BY THE MARKET AT THE TIME OF COMPLETION OF COLLEGE OR TRAINING.

    4.      CONTRACT AND NEGOTIATIONS REGARDING COLLEGE/TRAINING TUITION/EXPENSES AND EMPLOYER REIMBURSEMENT WILL BE DEFINED BY ARBITRATION AND STANDARDS DETERMINED BY THE DEPT OF LABOR.

    *** THIS PROGRAM WILL CREATE AN AMERICAN TRANSITIONAL VIABLE WORK FORCE WITH PRACTICAL WORK EXPERIENCE FOR PROSPECTIVE EMPLOYERS-SPONSORS TO ACCESS AND MENTOR.

    *** THIS PROGRAM WILL CREATE JOBS AND DIRECTLY CONNECT THE WORKFORCE WITH THE INDUSTRIES IN NEED OF HUMAN CAPITAL.

    *** THIS PROGRAM WILL ENABLE STUDENTS TO TRANSITION TO EMPLOYMENT WITH A DIRECT INVESTMENT IN THEIR FUTURE, WHILE BOLSTERING THE ECONOMIC GROWTH OF THE NATION.

    With the implementation of these simple SEVERANCE, VETERAN & STUDENT ACTS, America’s economy, spirit, and future will exponentially expand beyond the nation’s current burdens and constraints, with prosperity and renewed INVEST in AMERICA (I AM) – SOLUTION.

    • Steve Apple says:

      You want to reward “soldiers” for murdering woman and children for the military industrial complex, The issue is THEY WANT OUR FREEDOMS GUNS AND LIVES there is no economic plan on the face of the earth that can stem the tide of patriotism that is sweeping america,wake up, the whole damn world is coming alive identifying the traitors and enslavers hellbent on the total enslavement of mankind to be ruled over by a select special tribe and nothing will save their evil asses from justice the anger is so thick in america you can cut it with a knife and you offer 40 acres and a mule,its not your’s to offer nor any other man.Nobody has the right to promise anything at my expense there are no free rides ,its simple work hard dont waste your money on crap from wally world and live with in your means I dont owe anybody a damn thing and nobody owes me a damn thing but if you need my help and ASK chances are I will do what i can.
      Steve

      • Angel-NYC says:

        There are many veterans/members of the AF here, in the Trenches.

        • Steve Apple says:

          My son was a captain in the airforce,he served corporate america at bagram, hickam and 2 other military bases,so what The fact of the matter is ,him and all other military personel are mercenaries fighting for nothing more than the military industrial complex There is no honor in MURDERING innocent women and children for corporate profit so spare me the prideful nonsense and do your duty perform your oath you dont have to travel to the mideast THE ENEMIES ARE IN THE GATE. Shame on you and every other “military man” who has taken an oath to defend the CONSTITUTION from all enemies foreign and domestic.So spare me that Pridefull im a military man nonsense and FULFILL YOUR OATH or hang your head in shame for the empty words you spoke upon your enlistment.
          Steve

          • # 1 NWO Hatr says:

            Steve, Angel’s husband Randy is a vet. I just received an e-mail from her, and she’s VERY upset. She’s been posting here longer than I have, and she’s very well liked.

            You’re treading on dangerous ground, my friend.

          • Steve Apple says:

            Hey #1
            My sons a vet, my dads a vet what have any done to secure our country,america wasnt attacked we are the aggressor.Have I spoken one single word of untruth, The facts support me,I have no animosity for angel or her husband,and wish honesty didnt offend but if it does change direction and FULFILL THEIR OATH and we wouldnt have to worry about traitors inside the gates.I am just sick and tired of all this “oathkeeper rah rah B S and theve done doodlely squat ,not my opinion this is a fact,if someone walks up and says hey murder these guys would you say okay.These kids followed Illegal orders how about just say no,I understand the gung ho gang mentality of the troops and really dont care if one or all are offended with the truth,our nation is in dire straights and its time we all put our big boy pants on,admit our mistakes and take back our country.
            Putting on a silly uniform and becoming a robot doesnt grant you ,me or anyother “super powers” and has nothing at all to do with God or country,it only serves a tiny tribe of madmen on a conquest of greed. I wasnt talking to angel nyc anyway she butted in with but theres military mens here when I was trying to save my money from “strayhorse’s giveaway,which really was the whole point to start with its not his money to promise or give away,entitlements are what has caused a lot of the financial instability in america,that and 3TRILLION WASTED ON WARS OF AGGRESSION by a military that wont fulfill their oaths and now another generation of kids is sick and broke and torn in half coming back home being turned into half machines due to blown off body parts and angel is upset with me? makes no sense dubya and his gang did this, not me I support the troops by standing up for them from
            day one demanding they be brought home
            Steve

          • # 1 NWO Hatr says:

            Steve, when I closed that comment with “my friend” I wasn’t being sarcastic or facetious (which I often am). The problem as I see it is that you and I grew up in a totally different era and environment. These kids today don’t enjoy the benefits of the moral standards we were taught back in the day. They’ve grown up with violent video games, violent movies, and violent t.v ‘programming’. Unless they were raised by parents with strong Christian beliefs, most of them never had much of a chance to develop decent moral characters.

            Although everyone has a conscience, and deep down knows the difference between right and wrong, continuous brainwashing WILL take its toll over the years.

            This is why I tend to focus my anger on the perpetrators of this brainwashing/indoctrination agenda (the NWO) rather than the products of their efforts. Yes, they ARE responsible for their own actions, but who’s to say you or I would be any different, had we been born decades later than we were.

            I’ll let you in on something. I had friends who were DRAFTED back in the sixties, went to Vietnam, and were killed. I avoided that situation, because I saw all those idiots on t.v. burning their draft cards, and going to jail for it. I simply never registered for the draft. Even back then, I realized the insanity of going over there to kill people who were obviously NOT trying to come here and kill us. About the ONLY thing I regret is not having any military training, which will much needed in the very near future.

            But then again, there’s every possibility that had I been drafted and gone to Vietnam, I may very well not even be here to write this. I’ll gladly take the trade-off.

          • Steve Apple says:

            Hey #1 I am just now getting back on line(finally got new guts in the ol putor and boy is it fast) and read your response I took no offense at your “friend” at the end and took your advice as coming from one,however their seems to be some “personal” or directed at him/her confusion,I did not intend to personnally impune angel nc or her vet hubby.I just live under the addage Words are cheap, the proofs in the pudding for example growing up mom constantly caught dad whoring would throw him out 2 weeks ,later he’s there with flowers and CHEAP WORDS of i loooooooove you when the facts are if love had existed he wouldnt have whored to start with.The same can be said for our Military The oath they take have no more meaning than i love you ,they have no substance,same with cops there is nothing heroic about a thug in a state costume who took the same oath only to prey on the weak.I heard a long time ago that the Truth will set you free,but First it will piss you off,sounds about right to me so I would suggest that all “vets” and their families DIRECT their anger at the betrayers ,the ones that caused this the ones that sent them home ripped aparted and attached mechanical parts to their young bodies and called it “technology” this is where the anger should be directed as I stood up in support of “the troops” from day one demanding that these wars be STOPPED and our children sent home.I was called “unamerican” when I was the definition of america only most were to cowardly to speak up in order to get along with the powers that were enslaving them.
            As you can tell Im not the type of man who minces word with that said,If I had a problem I would have mentioned it ,You seem like a decent guy,a likeable knowledgable guy #1 and Im glad to have met you and the other’s I labor (I peck for ss%$# on this keyboard) to converse with .
            PS
            I solved that problem YOU AND HENRY teased me/made me drool over LOL
            Steve

          • # 1 NWO Hatr says:

            Hey Steve, no problem. I just wanted to clear the air about Angel, O.K.?

            We’re kind of fond of her here on The Trenches.

        • oldvet says:

          Yes there is!

    • Henry Shivley says:

      Oh, communism. No thank you.

      • Steve Apple says:

        Hey Henry
        I’d call in but you guys seem to say most of what i would say and the *6 dingy delay thing confuses my simple mind LOL
        Steve

    • Koibaby says:

      They don’t want a solution!

  5. NC says:

    “The “Alliance For An Affordable Internet” is a public-private partnership which intends to build a huge, expensive African Internet. Its headquarters are in Nairobi, Kenya, now dubbed “Africa’s Silicon Valley”.”

    Great! Now the U.S. can also secretly monitor Africans when they tweet or use facebook updates to tell the world where they are now while they are starving to death and, at the same time, while they upload video footage of Bill Gates and his Foundation of goons injecting them with AIDS, experimental flu vaccines/viruses and so on. The people in Africa are going to be so much better now that the West has arrived. Thank you Obama and thank you, UN! (sarcasm)

  6. Choward Newsis says:

    Obama. Bush41&Bush43, Perle, The Bernanke, The Holder’ Eric Holder, Paulson, etc. are all involved in the financial war against the United States. Their efforts to loot and destroy are as evident and as prearranged as the food mom puts on your plate.

  7. red says:

    Clearly – this technology and investment will be used against the USA in the future by our enemies.

  8. eric swan says:

    Wow! No one is challenging the absurd 307 billion number. Does no one who reads this site except me have any sense? Are we collectively becoming so numb to large numbers that we no longer have any concept of magnitude? This number is something like 25 times our annual foreign aid budget. This is bullshit, wake the f#@k up!!!

  9. oldvet says:

    I enlisted the year Vietnam ended,…yeah I know dumb-ass me…
    As and “Older Vet” not “OLDVET” I can say my mental picture and belief attitude was much different in those days as now. I was born in the 50′s when America was the shit man!!…It was later known as Mother God Apple pie and Chevrolet (or FORD)….I grew up on the southron Coast of the Carolinas,..half white and half Cherokee Native. I lived on the beach dude….surfed and fished and chased skirts !
    We had a mindset then…America was full of possibilities , hell we had just a cpl years ago went to the friggin MOON…..the World loved us.
    We carried the TORCH of FREEDOM to every part of the globe…….that is until around 1985 when I realized it was naught for freedom but for JEWISH banker resource wars……We invaded all the S.A. banana nations to brink them democracy….or debt slavery…so it seems now.
    We built an EMPIRE of domination and pissed off every country on the Planet………Yeah…..if I was told to shoot old Hosea back then I probably would have,…cause you see Uncle Sam would not lie to us……

    Today……………..
    I now hhave family members and friends with kids in service…..im sure most all of them would follow orders too,..just as we did.
    I try to talk with them and possibly educate them about the “REAL WORLD”….truth is,..nobody at that time could educate me.

    I dont and wont damn our service members or our Leo’s……..but…I sure as hell will not trust them until they have proven who they are. And that may just be the rub…….some may never prove it enough.

    I understand where Steve is coming from….I see his frustration with our “boys”…its logical. And I also see too many of us older folks getting offended way too easy..(self included) by those of our ranks whose hearts are like proud Lions but our emotions and thought when it comes to putting them on the keyboard,…well its like old sausage finger sam trying to glue a kids toy back together…..it just gets flubbed up……..

    Dont know about y’all,..but Im a gonna try harder to be more understanding with people and less easily prompted to anger from mere emotional embarrassments.

    And by the way……..307 Billion? we may need to sequester Tarzan for a while.

    • Steve Apple says:

      Hey Old vet,I find your lack of “mopar” mention OFFENSIVE LOL
      I am a gear head and love all old things mopar and have built several pretty nice hot rods for my son,the last one having a 68 340 which was known as the giant killer back in the good ol days my second car was 68 barracuda with the 426 hemi a real hemi not like the crap dodge pushes nowadays.Anyways all the deceit pulled on you and all our kids that joined for what they thought was the right reason is water under the bridge as once you know the truth you cant unknow it with that said i have stated many times that we are all in this together TODAY and must focus our anger our rage against the real perpetrators those that have brought harm to all of america and misery on the rest of the world.These are the ones that must reep what they have sewn..The enemy belongs to us all and division among us will not help anything ,maybe I got hard after my last feeling died maybe it was after I realized what I had got my child involved in (I walked out of his graduation when the gen. started praising the afghan war) he was getting his 2nd lt. papers. Anyway you should chk out rebuilding some old mopars if you need some real aggravation in your life LOL
      Steve

  10. oldvet says:

    Hey bro….Had a 71 Charger with an old elephant motor…ran like the blazes in a straight line….wouldnt corner worth a fu*k……had my shit walked on too many times by Mach 1′s, Cleveland Powered Torinos and Rat motor Super Sports….got rid of the Charger….haaahaaa……yeah but you gotta love Detroit Iron!!

    Steve my boy up and became a squid…..he’s serves on a boat..SSBN.
    I tried to talk him out of it 8 years ago…told him,..showed him the evidence…..He wouldnt listen bro….the glory Uncle Sugar presents to these kids is more powerful than most of us simple folk can overcome with truth.

    To this day he thinks IM UN AMERICAN AND UN PATRIOTIC because I wont support wars of aggression against poor folks of brown color. To him Im dayum near the enemy…we havent spoken in 5 years now…not my choice,..His.

    I understand bro,…I got hard like the man of steel,..got no use for dilly dally type hug me jesus loves everybody peaceman freaks who wouldnt kill a cockroach in their corn flakes but cheers Obammy for drone attacks against the mid-east.
    Im like the bellamy brother song that says…”he’s an old hippie and dont know what to do,…hang on to the old or grab on to the new…….I aint tryin to hurt nobody…..jest tryin real hard to adjust”

    Well that shit aint working out for me anymore……fock’em

    Anyway bro….good to hear from ya…hang in there…have a George Dickel on me! :)

    • Steve Apple says:

      Hey Olvet,sorry to hear about the outs with your kid,its not the same with mine,Ill try to make along story short I have raised Josh by myself since he was 2 (his mother had better things to do) I insisted that he go to college as I thought I had missed somthing so he did and rotc was the only viable option he excelled making deans list but he always excelled in school cause i was involved chking work and making sure he studied before he played and the rules stayed consistent everyday.Me and Josh are very close even though he lives in hawaii,as far as his being naieve about the usmilitary and “his troops” that veil was lifted by the concious and need of the truth I instilled in him from a young age seeing with his own eyes what the fk was going on with the secret undocumented blackwater flights in and out of bagram that I had told him about before his deployment all of a sudden I didnt sound quite as “crazy” as I did when he saw and was hushed for asking under the standard “national security BS” and the killing which as aircraft maintenance he didnt commit “first hand” but you load a gun give it to a hired killer surley you are as guilty as the trigger man. He took early out 2 yrs ago after doing 10 and was a capt.He understands all this and more and has turned his life over to faith and asked forgiveness which according to the BOOK is all it takes so hes married and happy and me a man above all others in theDESERVING GRANDCHILDREN dept.will never have any cause they dont want kids still gets along great with my son.You did own a dodge cause they are no good cornering for sure they aint good for nothing but the 1/4 mile but thats the rush I crave and the smell of burning tires.
      Steve

  11. oldvet says:

    Sorry if I sounded as I was coming down on peoples faith….I wasnt…..Im a God fearing man myself…..I just aint into all that Zionist-Mainstream Fundamentalist BS anymore….had my eyes opened on that about 20 years back. Hells bells bro…we been feed a pig in the poke about all that for 150 years now. Even the NEVER WRONG VATICAN is back peddling these days.
    …………………………………………….

    Yeah…..man that Charger would burn up a set of G-78 15′s on a friday night….come saturday morning I had to set the lifter , put in 8 new Autolites plugs (Mopar was always more maintenance to me than a FORD was….thats why I switched)….file down and reset both points (didnt have that “Lean Burn Emissions crap back then)and then try to wash her and Coca Cola shine the tires so I could go pick up some girly girl to smootch with saturday nite!!!
    Most Fathers dreaded seeing me pull up in their drive. BTW,…we walked up and rang the bell…..we didnt sit in the drive and blow the dayum horn like they do now.

    Doggone but wasnt them some good old days!!……I can still hear that 8 Track playing the Dobbie Bro’s and Lynard Skynard while me and Lucy got NEKID….er……..well…….seriously talking about world affairs and shit in the back seat………Haaahhhaaaaa yeah buddy! :)

    • Angel-NYC says:

      LOL We’re on the same page, oldvet.

    • Steve Apple says:

      I dont dabble in any man made cults which is what ALL organized religion is “morals the majority” can live by I found my maker on his terms simple rules all men can live by IE dont steal your neighbors stuff dont screw your neighbors wife dont lie about your neighbor and several others basic rules for all men to get along and as far as talking to God I was told to do it in private one on one not through giving tribute to perverts I was raised baptist and figured at a young age that there was somthing wrong about this cult and have studied some others and will remain Unaffilliated with all 501c cults. In my beliefs it is a freedom of choice deal and is left up to the individual.As it should be. Oh on a personal note No store whiskey bought for me I got a friend who makes some pretty good shine when I need liquid refreshment but usually stick to maxwell house and spring water
      Steve

      • oldvet says:

        Was raised southron baptist and Native American ,..so I saw the pull from early on.
        You say pray in private? Yep!! 100+ agree with that.
        ………………………………..
        We dont do the bonded and bottled here either…as far as what we if ever consume anymore,..its local made! Just cant trust anything that SAM approves of.
        So the George Dickel comment was just a good cheer salute.

        I think you and I and Angel NYC are on the same page,…along with Digger,..NWO Hatr,..NC,…..and a few others,…even old JD and especially Henry too!.

        (sorry if I left anyone out)

        We really gotta ‘Come together,..right now” cause these are the days we were placed here for.
        This cause and fight between evil and good is a fight I “believe we choose many eons ago” to be here for.

        This is the time for choosing the correct sides for this thing to play out , its our time. Its here now….we decided long ago to be here for it….lets make it count this time…I dont believe we have another chance.

        • diggerdan says:

          Damned right oldvet. I have tried now for a few years to get something started but everything I have tried has failed, however me and millard is going to try to start something here where I am at to do the very thing you are talking about.

          • oldvet says:

            Digger,..you can then imagine the sleepless nites Ive spent over the past few years worring about who if any got the message I was trying to give. People are funny bro…if they got food a big truck and bigger TV,…well they just refuse to hear what ya got to say.

            Its hard to get 2 out of 10 folks to agree to do anything…..

          • # 1 NWO Hatr says:

            T.V.

            The # 1 problem.

            Always has been.

      • diggerdan says:

        Yyea Steve, I agree with ya on that religion stuff too. I always wondered about if there is so many religions out there and each one always says that their god is the onlt god and their way of worship ins the only way to worship then I got to think that all this organized religon is a bunch of poppycock. I believe in god and nobody can tell me or you how to talk to him/her.

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